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zagatoes30

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What a mess, they need to find a better way to handle this type of event it's not as if rain doesn't play a part somewhere in the calendar most years.

It should have just been called off rather than a 2 lap parade to meet the minimum points criteria
 

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They should have moved it to today. The next race happens to be in Holland so it's much closer than usual for moving everything. It was too dangerous to race yesterday and you could see that wasn't going to change so the bu&&ering about and then the award of half points seemed unfair.
 

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They should have moved it to today. The next race happens to be in Holland so it's much closer than usual for moving everything. It was too dangerous to race yesterday and you could see that wasn't going to change so the bu&&ering about and then the award of half points seemed unfair.

I believe the track staff, marshals etc were the problem, as it is not a bank holiday there and a lot of them would be working their day job today.
 

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They should have moved it to today. The next race happens to be in Holland so it's much closer than usual for moving everything. It was too dangerous to race yesterday and you could see that wasn't going to change so the bu&&ering about and then the award of half points seemed unfair.

Agreed, or just cancel it running yesterday was pointless, not literally, and they should have called it earlier. I wonder is it like the cricket, no play means a refund but one over means no refund
 

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Agreed, or just cancel it running yesterday was pointless, not literally, and they should have called it earlier. I wonder is it like the cricket, no play means a refund but one over means no refund
I think that was the point Lewis H was making. They only ran the parade laps so no refund applies both to spectators and some of the business to business transactions associated with the “race”.
 

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Except the Spa promoter, with funding from the Walloon government, probably can't afford to give refunds and the F3 race and Porsche Supercup race did go ahead. Liberty, or Lewis, perhaps could afford to finance refunds.

But yes, availability of marshals and the risk of poor weather were the reasons against postponing until today.
 

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I'm sure they could have got it together if they really wanted to. It's probably just down to money, it always is. Especially with F1. I suspect they are contracted to come and race and by the letter of the law, that means 2 laps and then they are not in breach of contract with the track and it's funders. It would have cost them more to run another day and it's unlikley the track would want to absorb any of those costs and so they make a legal resolution that means nobody can sue anyone else. And the fans get f all.

And I don't agree with anyone calling for refunds. The cars were on track plenty of times over the race weekend and practice days, the support races were run in the main too. Perhaps an extra free ticket to Friday practice next year for race day ticket holders or something that actually boosts attendance and sales but not a refund.
 

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I'm sure they could have got it together if they really wanted to. It's probably just down to money, it always is. Especially with F1. I suspect they are contracted to come and race and by the letter of the law, that means 2 laps and then they are not in breach of contract with the track and it's funders. It would have cost them more to run another day and it's unlikley the track would want to absorb any of those costs and so they make a legal resolution that means nobody can sue anyone else. And the fans get f all.

And I don't agree with anyone calling for refunds. The cars were on track plenty of times over the race weekend and practice days, the support races were run in the main too. Perhaps an extra free ticket to Friday practice next year for race day ticket holders or something that actually boosts attendance and sales but not a refund.
Fair enough on the refunds, good additional perspective.
 

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Just trying to watch 'The inside line' on sky F1.
OMG the narrator is absolutely dire! That cheesy American documentary tone, but completely mono-tone. Makes it almost unwatchable.

What were you thinking Sky?
 

Sam McGoo

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@mods can we change the thread title to Formula 1 ?

Took a while to search for as F1 is too short. Also, it is the main F1 thread and not just about qually.
 

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Is the Russell move now a done deal?
Nothing has been announced but I though the interview at SPA with Jost Capito was interesting in that when asked about Russell he said he would love to see him back in a William's one day, hinting he was going elsewhere, if not Merc, where? Hamilton has appeared "off" with Russell, even going back as far as Sakhir, in an interview today Russell said he knew where he would be driving next year but not say where, if he was staying at Williams why wouldn't he just say that?
Conspiracy theories everywhere! :D
Disclaimer... I may be totally wrong!!!
 

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Nothing has been announced but I though the interview at SPA with Jost Capito was interesting in that when asked about Russell he said he would love to see him back in a William's one day, hinting he was going elsewhere, if not Merc, where? Hamilton has appeared "off" with Russell, even going back as far as Sakhir, in an interview today Russell said he knew where he would be driving next year but not say where, if he was staying at Williams why wouldn't he just say that?
Conspiracy theories everywhere! :D
Disclaimer... I may be totally wrong!!!

Well if he’s leaving Williams the only place is Merc, everyone else would be a backwards step I think.

I find it interesting based on the past that a team boss would want two really good drivers, unless either they don’t think George is ‘that’ good or they think he’ll settle for no 2 which time and again has proven to be unlikely, to get to F1 you need an ego the size of Ron Jeremy’s ….
 

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Well if he’s leaving Williams the only place is Merc, everyone else would be a backwards step I think.

I find it interesting based on the past that a team boss would want two really good drivers, unless either they don’t think George is ‘that’ good or they think he’ll settle for no 2 which time and again has proven to be unlikely, to get to F1 you need an ego the size of Ron Jeremy’s ….
It would be a new order for Merc, Hamilton is out of contract after 2022. I've seen Russell play the team game 110% at Williams, that's different to bowing down to a team mate though, don't think he's capable of that. Which is good.
Edit:- We may just get to see if Hamilton is
that good. ;)
 
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It would be a new order for Merc, Hamilton is out of contract after 2022. I've seen Russell play the team game 110% at Williams, that's different to bowing down to a team mate though, don't think he's capable of that. Which is good.
Edit:- We may just get to see if Hamilton is
that good. ;)

Could be 1989 all over again, that’d be exciting for us, Toto may be pulling his hair out though!