Classic car conundrum

Ewan · Aug 13, 2022

Oneball said:
Ferry from Toulon is good option, about 1/2 price of Barcelona.

Thanks for that. I didn’t know that option existed. I’ll give it a look.

mjheathcote · Aug 13, 2022

philw696 said:
I've actually put some ignitions back to points with some of the junk electronic ignitions out there.
Did it very recently on a Renault 16 that broke down in the village.

I put the Stag on Luminition. No problem at all, but nothing new, I have the points as a back up in the glove box. However after 30 years I think I would struggle to refit and set them up, especially as they are twin points to extend the dwell angle being a V8.
Most are probably thinking what's the dwell angle!

Marco07 · Aug 13, 2022

Doctor Houx said:
My DB4GT was purchased in 1986 for £8.5k. Best investment I ever made. By contrast, AML shares were the worst. Currently trading at about 6% of IPO price I paid.

Well done on the 4GT, that really did turn out well for you. I’m not complaining though,, paid £73k for my 1965 manual DB6 vantage. Didn’t get sucked into AML shares myself.

mjheathcote · Aug 14, 2022

Doctor Houx said:
My DB4GT was purchased in 1986 for £8.5k. Best investment I ever made. By contrast, AML shares were the worst. Currently trading at about 6% of IPO price I paid.

It must have needed some work.
I paid £3.4k for my Stag also in 1986 as a student as transport to Polytechnic, but 4 years later completely bare shelled it.

Nibby · Aug 14, 2022

mjheathcote said:
That's so true
A was in my late teens when I bought my Stag in '86. Many in the owners club at that time where in their 40's or older, and are now dead. Even the mx5 is well over 30 years old for the first generation.
Not many are interested in cars prior to their birth.

Same here Michael, got my first Stag in 86 and with it came a few SOC magazines, a few pictures in there of various members and their cars and unless they've defied science they'll be long gone but saying all that the Stag does still attract a lot of new owners in some cases weren't even born when they were in production going by the Facebook page which I think is down to it's timeless shape. The e-type has lost a bit of kudos in recent years but the one that has really fallen from grace is the MK2 Jag which screams 1960s, a decade long gone now.

mjheathcote · Aug 14, 2022

Nibby said:
Same here Michael, got my first Stag in 86 and with it came a few SOC magazines, a few pictures in there of various members and their cars and unless they've defied science they'll be long gone but saying all that the Stag does still attract a lot of new owners in some cases weren't even born when they were in production going by the Facebook page which I think is down to it's timeless shape. The e-type has lost a bit of kudos in recent years but the one that has really fallen from grace is the MK2 Jag which screams 1960s, a decade long gone now.

I think what does help the Stag, and other GTs of the 70s, is the fact they were quite modern. Coil spring mcpherson/trailing arm suspension, servo disc front brakes, electric windows, power steering, adjustable steering column, auto option, ac option (not many in the uk though) smooth V8.
I've often bombed down the motorway at 80 for hours at a time no problem, and, no engine/cooling problems over 36 years of ownership.
I must add, I do have modern fuel/ethanol fuel vapourisation issues I'm trying to sort, ever since E5 was introduced.

Nibby · Aug 14, 2022

mjheathcote said:
I must add, I do have modern fuel/ethanol fuel vapourisation issues I'm trying to sort, ever since E5 was introduced.

I thought some of the vapourisation was down to the temp sensor/s giving up the ghost on the Strombergs.

Guy · Aug 14, 2022

Doctor Houx said:
My DB4GT was purchased in 1986 for £8.5k. Best investment I ever made. By contrast, AML shares were the worst. Currently trading at about 6% of IPO price I paid.

Even allowing for inflation the DB4 only cost 20k in today's money! I suspect like many AML investors, the shares were bought with emotion, never a good idea! It's only money.....

Doctor Houx · Aug 14, 2022

mjheathcote said:
It must have needed some work.
I paid £3.4k for my Stag also in 1986 as a student as transport to Polytechnic, but 4 years later completely bare shelled it.

Oh certainly. In the 35 years I owned it I spent over £200k transforming it from a tired old corroded dog (albeit a runner and was still on original engine block and gearbox casing when I sold it) plus countless 000’s of hours of elbow grease on work I was able to do myself into a very reliable and well presented racer that participated at LMC, Goodwood, Spa etc many times.

I was approached often to sell it but was not interested until Goodwood kept putting more and more pressure on to have a “Celebrity” driver race it at the Revival in what became the Kinrara Trophy race. Eventually, my entry was conditional on this, so as the joy for me was always the driving not just the owning, and after all that time I felt I had gone as far as I could with it’s and my performance and ability, so I did sell it over the winter of 2020/2021. despite the cost over the years, it was still > 10 x ROI.

I’m now getting to grips with a whole new level of performance and terror with the GT40. Only 9 years younger, but light years away in terms of handling and pace!

MarkMas · Aug 14, 2022

Oneball said:
Ferry from Toulon is good option, about 1/2 price of Barcelona.

Maybe...

Toulon: only Tuesdays and Thursdays and 11 hours to Alcúdia about €250
vs
Barcelona: daily 6-8 hours to Palma or Alcúdia about €250

Oneball · Aug 14, 2022

MarkMas said:
Maybe...

Toulon: only Tuesdays and Thursdays and 11 hours to Alcúdia about €250
vs
Barcelona: daily 6-8 hours to Palma or Alcúdia about €250

Those prices to Barcelona won't include a cabin

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fphil · Aug 14, 2022

Oneball said:
Those prices to Barcelona won't include a cabin

Have you checked Corsica-ferries.fr ?

lifes2short · Aug 14, 2022

rag top e type is just lush as is the healey and the tr6, the rag top e types are still fetching crazy money though, historics have had a couple of really gorgeous rag top examples in there latest auction but well over 100k

MarkMas · Aug 14, 2022

Oneball said:
Those prices to Barcelona won't include a cabin

Ah, ok.

Oneball · Aug 14, 2022

fphil said:
Have you checked Corsica-ferries.fr ?

Yep, the inlaws have a place out there, they booked their ferry last week it was €250 from Toulon with Corsica and €600 from Barcelona

fphil · Aug 14, 2022

Oneball said:
Yep, the inlaws have a place out there, they booked their ferry last week it was €250 from Toulon with Corsica and €600 from Barcelona

I did check the Corsica app (I use to travel with them) per ex on the 23/08 2p+ 1 car = 100 E day trip. I depends much on the day

Oneball · Aug 14, 2022

fphil said:
I did check the Corsica app (I use to travel with them) per ex on the 23/08 2p+ 1 car = 100 E day trip. I depends much on the day

Im guessing that won't include a cabin. So 7hr overnight in a seat with a bunch **** heads, been there done that. No chance!

Scaf · Aug 14, 2022

I was dealt a real swerve ball today when my brother pointed out a very nice Sunbeam Tiger that is for sale …………..
He knows I have considered them before but never found a really good one ……….. this one is near perfect

zagatoes30 · Aug 14, 2022

Love the Sunbeam Tiger, a real Q car as not many know what it is and it doesn't shout look at me like the Cobra does

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