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sobThey were good value in 2012 when I bought the one I had.
sobThey were good value in 2012 when I bought the one I had.
Might just be the light / reflection but the headlamps look off colour and the front bumper faded.
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Either way does not show the car in its best light.I think it was just washed prior to the photo and that's steam from the radiator causing condensation on the bumper. Not sure about the headlight but you can restore them easily enough, just bought a kit to do my Cayenne.
That is certainly my experience. I drove 3 hours to convince myself that the early car can't be that bad but as i was driving a '14 MC Shift at the time, it felt like I would be going backwards simply to have a V12 Ferrari. I subsequently bought a '16 Stradale from Richard, which was fantastic and a worthwhile improvement over the std MC shift. A great car but once I had driven the revised 612 I knew I could have V12 Ferrari without compromise. Better gearbox, better handling, much better ride, lovely exhaust not (ferrari Sports exhaust) and hugely powerful Ceramic brakes. Richard found me the perfect car and it was and is indistinguishable from new (it still has that rich smell of new leather whenever I get into it). 13k miles in 13 years and 12 MD services, all on time and I have now added 7k more and had it MD serviced twice at Carrs Exeter. They actually had one in the showroom for sale on my last visit a couple of months ago. Another Daytona '08 car, the sales guy saw me looking at it and commented 'you don't see many like this anymore, 3 owners, full history and only 30k miles'. I suggested he checked their workshop! Mine has needed a starter motor and a couple of hubs for ABS sensors (same common issue as Masers). I will hopefully keep it another couple of years but a potential extension on our place in Portugal may need the money so keep watching Richard's stock list!Build quality, progression through the years, gearbox hardware and software to name a few. Drive one, they’re light years apart. I told @Guy not to buy one as I’d driven an 05 with a clean bill of health from Ferrari, new clutch, belts, brakes etc. It was crashy, uninspiring, just not a pleasant place to be, after driving, he agreed. I then got an 07MY one in LHD that was well looked after and drove miles better than an 05. I had also the chance to drive a 1to1 2009 which was even better again. Guy came and drove the 07MY and couldn’t believe the improvement over the early car; so much so we managed to find a 2008 for him which he currently owns. Ask him, he knows his cars very well indeed, and loves his Scaglietti.
Go on talk me out of this ...
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Sounds like you and I have a similar starting point for a similar decision / journey. I like the idea of a 360 Modena (the coupe) with the F1 system. 348s seem to be slightly cheaper but then the cambelt change is engine out and a lot more costly. Besides, the 360 seems to have a reputation for being a bit more usable and I don't do "garage queens"! Personally, I quite like the Mondial. I know a lot of people on here trash it but I'm capable of making my own mind up about things ... that's how I bought a 3200. The Mondial T has the same layout and cambelt cost as the 348 and is probably the best of the bunch. But the early cars are fast approaching road tax / MOT / ULEZ free status, which has a lot going for it IMHO.Interestingly this thing is still there £47,950 at the moment (perhaps it was back in Jan too).
I expect that even beyond the chat previously about it being an early car etc. that a mere mortal like me attempting to run a V12 Ferrari on a budget is probably not a great idea, but it's a nice looking car.
I see it needs a clutch and a belt service. The latter seems to be about £900, the former... no idea, but parts are comparable (or perhaps even cheaper...) than a the Maser Coupe! I expect it'll be quite similar to the Maserati in some ways, DIY-able if you can get the car in the air, but setting bite point likely needs some s/w most won't have.
<warning I'm digging a hole here>
Moving on a bit, and hopefully not drifting too far from the whole idea of the Ferrari brave pill...
How does one go about buying one of these cars?
I've been looking recently (but not necessarily that seriously) as I figure if I don't actually start planning, I'll never do it.
Realistically, I probably can't afford one, which is always a good place to start, but ignoring that for now () , and with an imaginary budget of say £50-55k, should I just walk away?
Pistonheads / autotrader / carandclassic seem to have a small number of vastly differently priced cars at the moment (some of which are undisclosed CAT cars at that...) (where do people actually sell Ferraris!)
I presume that a lot of these are prospectively priced, and certainly these seems to be plenty of cars that were bought <12 months ago for substantially less than the current asking price.
CollectingCars seem to have occasional well priced examples, but presumably trying to organise a PPI on one is basically a no go, so really, if it's at the other end of the country, it's purchase based on some text and 100 photos.
I'm looking at 90s on, so really, 348, 355 (probably unlikely), 360 (preferably manual, which I know is another ask altogether!), the 456 terrifies me in terms of what could go wrong, the 612 seems to overcome some of that but introduce new potential issues, and I think early Cali's are just out of reach.
Like many others, I don't want to look at the Mondial (the styling doesn't do it for me). I don't value the cheaper 80s and before cars as being worth as much or more than the 90s stuff.
I want to actually use the thing, so a <20k miles car that I'll immediately devalue isn't my thing, if anything a rough edges car is more my thing, if it's already less than perfect, I don't have to worry if I
"Mechanically sound" would be my aim, I'm not looking to own a show car, I'm happy to spanner a little with things, but being able to use it whilst fixing aircon, or having an electric seat issue or something isn't much of an issue for me.
This is probably the start of a long journey rather than an immediate jump in (as raising funds is likely to include liquidating some assets, including my Coupe and a sizable video game collection but having something to aim towards is always good - even if that's "you need to raise that budget" or as I said earlier "just walk away."
With you on the later Mondial that was my favourite as a teen and still like them today. Love the spider.Sounds like you and I have a similar starting point for a similar decision / journey. I like the idea of a 360 Modena (the coupe) with the F1 system. 348s seem to be slightly cheaper but then the cambelt change is engine out and a lot more costly. Besides, the 360 seems to have a reputation for being a bit more usable and I don't do "garage queens"! Personally, I quite like the Mondial. I know a lot of people on here trash it but I'm capable of making my own mind up about things ... that's how I bought a 3200. The Mondial T has the same layout and cambelt cost as the 348 and is probably the best of the bunch. But the early cars are fast approaching road tax / MOT / ULEZ free status, which has a lot going for it IMHO.
Funnily enough, I've started looking at 360s myself. Moving North has its benefits, so we'll see what the summer brings...As @Ewan says, get a 360. £50-55k is a leggy manual, or more likely a 40-50k mile late (03-04MY) F1 Modena. Later ones had better gearbox software and are better than early cars. In my opinion it is easily the best value Ferrari at that price point.
Coupe is a better car, no roof complications as you say, or scuttle shake. Other than this nothing I’m aware of.A couple of you have explicitly said Coupe, is there a reason to avoid the 360 Spider other than the complications of the roof mechanism? Scuttle shake bad?
The 348 in comparison is raw, abs being the only driver aid, no power steering, dog leg box, for me the last old school Ferrari. I love mine.
Yes, I saw that, it's later than mine so should have the front battery and suspension tweeks. I didn't realise it was local. I shall keep a watchful eye.It’s twin is coming soon on CollectingCars:
It’s local too, Dunfermline. I think the owner hasn’t had it too long either as it seemed to be sold from Aberdeen in 07/22.
Nice, but can be extremely costly to run.I think we mentioned 599s, A ferrari V12 with only 91k miles on it.
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