GeoffCapes
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I suppose that better than being referred to as a dingy. I'll take that as a compliment Adam!
The Road to Le Mans 2021
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I suppose that better than being referred to as a dingy. I'll take that as a compliment Adam!
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That's the spirit !I suppose that better than being referred to as a dingy. I'll take that as a compliment Adam!
GeoffCapes
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Spirits you say? Yes, have plenty of them for the trip!
When do we leave for the boat?
Oneball
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According to my mobile service provider you’re already in France.
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I plan to leave in 55 days, on the 16th August.
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Ditto. Also not sure about the QR code. I guess that would involve an update to the NHS app.
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Isn't it all part of the 37 Billion test and trace ?
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Not sure. I have no clue whether the scope included a globally recognised or pan-EU QR code.Isn't it all part of the 37 Billion test and trace ?
Keep in mind that £ 37bn is the two-year budget, but we're only 14 months into that two years so I suspect the amount spent to date is lower. I'm sure @CatmanV2 or @MarkMas can do some of that there fancy fact-checking to clarify.
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Facts? Where we're going, we don't need facts!Facts no one ever mentioned facts being important on SM
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OK, I'll bite.
There is a bit of a narrative that Boris and Dido 'wasted' £37Bn on an App that doesn't work, and this was an incredible sum for an app that surely could have been bought from Apple for 79p
But there are things to know:
- Yes, the £37Bn is indeed the budget for the two year period April 2020 to April 2022, so it has not all been spent yet. Maybe £25Bn to date.
- The vast majority of the money (about 85%) has gone on testing, not tracing.
- Most of the tracing money did not go on tech, but on staffing costs for the tracing legwork (well, phonework).
- These seem like large numbers until you start doing some maths.
- 85% of 25Bn is about 21Bn, which still seems like a huge sum. But about 150 million tests have been carried out, so that's 'only' about £140 per test. Suddenly the 'billions' make more sense.
- About 20,000 people were employed / contracted to provide the tracing service. Employing (finding, paying, equipping) 20,000 people for year costs about £25-50k each so about £½ to £1 Billion depending on how you do it (and how you account for it). So maybe 5% of the budget. (As it turns out, a lot of these people were given nothing to do, so a lot of money was wasted there, although we should remember that if they had not been paid by T&T they would probably have been paid under the furlough scheme.)
COVID-19: Test, track and trace (part 1) - Committees - UK Parliament
<p>Test and trace programmes are a core public health response in epidemics that can be used with other measures such as social distancing, barriers (such as masks) and handwashing to reduce infections. The basic principles of test and trace are identifying individuals, or groups of individuals...
NHS Test and Trace has not spent £37bn so far - Full Fact
A post on social media uses the total two-year Test and Trace budget to make misleading claims about where the money is going.
fullfact.org
Also, I will add that the vaccination programme was impressive, but relatively straightforward: A known and identifiable population, an existing vaccination framework that needed to be scaled up, and six months to prepare. The T&T programme was a bit of a mess, but much more challenging: A variable and unknown population, no existing framework or precedent for how people would behave, no time to prepare.
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CatmanV2
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TBF SM is still a net contributor to the universe's level of bunkum. But it's our bunkum.
SM: Rebunkuming one 'fact' at a time
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Hmm. Interesting. So SM overall put the bunk in the bunkum, did we?
Did we also put the bomp in the bomp bah bomp bah bomp and the ram in the rama lama ding dong?
We should find out. I understand there's a chap from the 1960s who'd like to shake our hand.
Did we also put the bomp in the bomp bah bomp bah bomp and the ram in the rama lama ding dong?
We should find out. I understand there's a chap from the 1960s who'd like to shake our hand.
BennyD
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Two pricks to end up surrounded by millions of them seems a high price to pay.
BennyD
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The last time I saw him he was fully inflated. That must have been just before he popped.
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Le Mans is next month. Which is nice.
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Are you bargaining on being there in person this year, Frank?
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100%. As a property owner I can and have visited the country this year for maintenance for rental which is legal. If the NHS ap gets accepted by the EU as expected in the next few weeks, that will get me into the circuit for the race, hence booking a ticket as there were only 20% availability and couldn’t risk waiting.
If it all goes pear shaped, I’ll send my e-ticket to Phil to use if he wants it!