All warning lights flashing

yukky

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2009QP5 ZF6ATの故障について質問させていただきます。
キーをMARに回すと
AVVまで回すとスターターは動くのですが、始動できません。

バッテリーの(-)を外さないと、キーがMARではないのに、シガーソケットに電源が供給されて常時ONになり、バッテリーが空になるまでワイパーやウォッシャーが永遠に動き続けてしまい、ロックすることもできません。

何らかの理由で、バッテリーが接続されて故障しても、パークオフボタンを押し続けると、ワイパーとシガーライターソケットがオフになり、キーがロックされ、ウインカーとワイパーも正常に動作しますレバー。
キーをMARに回すと警告灯が消え、スターターが回りエンジンが始動できます。
アクセルを踏むと回転数が上がります。メーターもほぼ正常に作動します。

しかし、パークオフボタンを放すと、エンジンはかかり続けますが、メーターの警告灯がすべて再び点滅し、さまざまな機能が停止します。

5年前のバッテリーなので充電してますが劣化してるのでしょうか?
ヒューズモジュールや本体ECUが故障していませんか?

Google翻訳を使って日本語を英語に翻訳しました。わかりにくかったらごめんなさい
問題の原因を知りたいです
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safrane

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Given the age of your battery, I would recommend replacing that first.

Also, remove the old one for 24 hours to ensure any remedial current has dissipated.

Good luck.
 

yukky

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Given the age of your battery, I would recommend replacing that first.

Also, remove the old one for 24 hours to ensure any remedial current has dissipated.

Good luck.
I'll get a new battery tomorrow, so I'll replace it.

I also got a used body ECU just in case.
If replacing the battery doesn't solve the problem, try replacing it!

Thank you for your advice.
I'll report back on the progress.
 

Scaf

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I'll get a new battery tomorrow, so I'll replace it.

I also got a used body ECU just in case.
If replacing the battery doesn't solve the problem, try replacing it!

Thank you for your advice.
I'll report back on the progress.
Good luck - hopefully this will resolve matters or at least eliminate the battery as being the problem.
 

yukky

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I got a new battery and replaced it, but unfortunately, the symptoms did not improve...
I tried connecting a Bosch diagnostic machine to OBD2, but it couldn't be started because there was no power to the port, so I couldn't diagnose it.

I'll report back after replacing the body ECU that will arrive at a later date!
 

yukky

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I tried replacing the body ECU today, but it didn't improve...
OBD2 doesn't work either, so I'm sorry.

I will check the ground in various places.
Since all the fuses are normal, I think it is unlikely that there is a disconnection or short circuit.What do you think?
 

yukky

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The text I am writing is translated from Japanese into English using Google Translate. I think it's difficult to read. sorry.

I have a question about the 2009QP5 ZF6AT.
When I turn the key, the starter works, but the engine does not start.

If you don't remove the negative (-) on the battery, the cigarette lighter socket etc. will always be turned on even though the key is not in the MAR position, and the wipers and washer will continue to run forever until the battery is empty. It also cannot be locked.
But if I hold down the off button, the power to the wipers and cigarette lighter socket is turned off, and I can also start the engine, and the wipers also work normally with the lever.
However, when I release the park off button, the engine continues to go, but all the warning lights on the gauges flash and various functions stop.

What kind of work is the proxy setting of the body ECU?
The diagnostic machine cannot be connected because there is no power to the OBD2 port.
The body ECU part number was 235153
 

CatmanV2

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What kind of work is the proxy setting of the body ECU?

It's a way of telling all the modules to talk to each other.

The diagnostic machine cannot be connected because there is no power to the OBD2 port.

This is going to be tricky. Was the socket working with the old body ECU?

In honesty I think you will need a professional for this

C
 

yukky

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body ECU with part number 235153 that came with the vehicle was previously taken to a repair shop for inspection, a Bosch diagnostic machine was connected to the OBD2 port. The mechanic says the diagnosis was successful.

The new product number 238580 that I got today is probably not compatible, but the symptoms haven't changed at all, and the engine that used to run when I pressed the park off button no longer starts.
So, pressing the park off button starts almost normally, so maybe the body ECU itself is normal? I think so.
Is it causing confusion because electricity is being transmitted to parts where it shouldn't be?
it's becoming very difficult to find
 

Harry

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The text I am writing is translated from Japanese into English using Google Translate. I think it's difficult to read. sorry.

I have a question about the 2009QP5 ZF6AT.
When I turn the key, the starter works, but the engine does not start.

If you don't remove the negative (-) on the battery, the cigarette lighter socket etc. will always be turned on even though the key is not in the MAR position, and the wipers and washer will continue to run forever until the battery is empty. It also cannot be locked.
But if I hold down the off button, the power to the wipers and cigarette lighter socket is turned off, and I can also start the engine, and the wipers also work normally with the lever.
However, when I release the park off button, the engine continues to go, but all the warning lights on the gauges flash and various functions stop.

What kind of work is the proxy setting of the body ECU?
The diagnostic machine cannot be connected because there is no power to the OBD2 port.
The body ECU part number was 235153
I am very sorry. Everything has been translated into good English - it was just the first message that wasn’t translated. I was not clever enough to work out it was in Japanese. I’ll shut up now!
 

Ebenezer

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I am very sorry. Everything has been translated into good English - it was just the first message that wasn’t translated. I was not clever enough to work out it was in Japanese. I’ll shut up now!
とてもごめんなさい。
すべてが良い英語に翻訳されました - それは翻訳されていない最初のメッセージに過ぎませんでした。
私は日本語で働くのに十分に賢くない。
今すぐ閉まります!!

Your'e welcome!
Eb
 

Harry

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とてもごめんなさい。
すべてが良い英語に翻訳されました - それは翻訳されていない最初のメッセージに過ぎませんでした。
私は日本語で働くのに十分に賢くない。
今すぐ閉まります!!

Your'e welcome!
Eb
I’ve translated that back to English and “I’ll shut up now” has become “Closes now!!” - probably as in “I will keep my trap shut”.
 

yukky

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I managed to communicate using the OBD2 port by taking advantage of the fact that the engine starts when you hold down the park off button!

There were two errors that appeared.

OBD-IIOBD-II
DTCs: 2
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U0001 [0xC001]
Controller area network (CAN) data bus, high speed bus
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U0401 [0xC401]
Invalid data received - engine control module (ECM)
 

CatmanV2

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Yeah, I think you've got some serious issues here. I mean *might* be rodent damage to the loom, but...

C
 

yukky

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Yeah, I think you've got some serious issues here. I mean *might* be rodent damage to the loom, but...

C
I am always grateful for your help.

When I measured the resistance of CAN High with a tester, it was 0Ω, so maybe a rat played a trick somewhere...
However...I have no idea which coupler and which wiring.
Is there a way to get a wiring diagram somewhere? It's okay if you have to pay.
 

CatmanV2

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I am always grateful for your help.

When I measured the resistance of CAN High with a tester, it was 0Ω, so maybe a rat played a trick somewhere...
However...I have no idea which coupler and which wiring.
Is there a way to get a wiring diagram somewhere? It's okay if you have to pay.

You can *try* the Maserati technical resource, but it's very hard to navigate and get what you want. Best of luck!

C