Alfa Romeo Gulia in it's final body work

[drewf]

Let me get this straight - Alfa Romeo proposing 510bhp out of this saloon car, straight from the factory?

Remind me what Maserati suggested for the Alfieri? And what they actually have in the Ghibli?

 

[Contigo]

Originally the Giulia was expected to share the Ghibli V6 but has a new Ferrari derived V6 which will be used in the new Dino. No surprise that a Ferrari lump produces more power?

I suspect that the Alfieri will use the same engine for entry level but somewhat detuned.

 

[Guest 1678]

not sure about the looks yet, but guaranteed being the muppet that I am I will buy one.

 

[conaero]

Well its left me a bit cold, i really do not like the front or profile, the rear is good though. I think it will drive really well, but it looks like Alfa played it safe and is pandering to the American market....money over passion, Alfieri for me, looks like the GranSport is safe for a few more years!

Put the money and engineering to one side, and i would still take the 159 on looks.

 

[Maser Sod]

So I'm guessing 55-60K? You can't get 500 horses in a sports saloon for much less.

If I had a petrol V6 Ghibli I'd be wondering why I'm 180 HP down on the Giulia. It must suck having your car stuck in the All Weather ECU mapping ...

 

[Maser Sod]

Just heard that it's a different V6 (90 degree rather than 60 degree V).

Guess it's from one of the Ferrari's, as earlier posted.

That's not going to help the price ...

 

[Classico]

Not liking it tbh.

Countless delays....only to serve up this?

Eyes immediately registered "BMW 3 series" instead of "gorgeous Alfa".

And that's a huge shame.

Agree it's an improvement on the Mito and Giulietta. But IMO, that wasn't hard to achieve.

 

[spkennyuk]

erm erm erm. It will probably grow on me and it may look much better in the flesh but its not having the same effect as the 159 TI did or the 156 Veloce. Its missing something for me. It's not punching me in the face and demanding I buy one now.

The front end V shows its an Alfa but I would be hard pushed to pick out any Alfa give away details if it didnt have any Alfa badges on it and had the nose covered.

Hopefully the performance and the interior will make up for what its lacking on the outside.

I'm not convinced it wont date quicker than the facelift 156's and 159's.

 

[Andyk]

Looking at the white on in the video not sure yet the red one in the video I really like.....If it is around 55/60k that makes it a 500bhp bargain and a genuine alternative to the M5 maybe........or is it aimed at the M3/4 and AMG Merc....either way still seems good if they get the drive right.

 

[Andyk]

Here's what Pistonheads say...

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-eurocars/alfa-romeo-giulia--official/32434

 

[conaero]

Nope, slept on it, still really dont like it, it has no Alfa wow factor, hugely disapointed.

 

[lisknik]

I like it, and that coming from someone who does not like modern cars

Somehow i can see my 156 in it, and I love me 156, seams to get a good natural progression on from the 159. Have they played it safe? Probably, but Alfa need this car to succeed. I like the close links it has to the rest of the Fiat family, tbh about bloody time, we been waiting long enough

 

[dem maser]

Nope, slept on it, still really dont like it, it has no Alfa wow factor, hugely disapointed.

same, not for me.....they could have designed a better looking sharper car, like when the Brera came out years ago, that set pulses going

 

[DaveT]

same, not for me.....they could have designed a better looking sharper car, like when the Brera came out years ago, that set pulses going

Yes Dem but not the cash tills in Alfa dealers. (well only in the service dept according to reports!)

Looks are inoffensive enough. Can anyone really be surprised they've played it safe in terms of looks? I'm certainly not.

Just like what's happened with Maser, they are now appealing to a different audience.

Sad though it is, traditional Alfa look/feel/soul doesn't pay the bills in a German-centric market.


Great shame for all of us Alfaholics but we are a small minority these days.

 

[Fangio63]

I really quite like it.... though it is a bit mainstream in the styling... I remember the Brera concept (with the V8 and scissor doors and brown interior and "captain Nemo" controls) looking absolutely stunning - but when the Brera was launched I was really disappointed. Wasn't expecting so much this time though

The price the hot one though I think will be well into Ghibli territory - and they'll drop like a stone in the first 2 years -- and the Ferrari sourced engine is going to need some looking after - so they won't be cheap to run..

Could be a good buy 2 or 3 years old...

But ... Alfa generally get the engines right, and for the most part the styling is cool - if not always jaw dropping... but they have a habit of cocking up other aspects - You never quite get the full package - always something you have to compromise on....so it will be interesting to see whether the Steering/ Suspension/ Transmission are up to the german standards..

I don't think they'll be too many of the QV 's around though... got a feeling they'll end up a bit like the old Lancia Thema 8:32...

Looking forward to the first road tests..

 

[conaero]

This says it all, top selling cars in America:

 

[DaveT]

Some dangerous cars there.

Many are so dull you are likely to fall asleep at the wheel.

 

[conaero]

Oh well, roll on the Giulia 2020 facelift!

 

[Spartacus]

Its bloody awful looking !!!!. That is not Alfa styling , thats a Lexus with an Alfa badge stuck on it . Its s a generic spread sheet designed saloon car to temp M3 and Audi owners to try something new.


.....Thats it folks, the last independent and truly passionate car designer has sold out to the accountants ..... give me a Brera any day , which was a car with styling that you just wanted to lick!!

 

[safrane]

Matt I think that list is justt the 4 door salon sales figures ..Fat Americans like their Pickup trucks so they can pretend to be an urban cowboy while eaking a 2kg burger with a gallon of fizzy sugar water.