Are you worried yet.

[Phil H]

What are you talking about?

Loz's pointy hat.

I'm told that he inhabits an ethereal world called Milton Keynes, where the elders wear foil headgear to conduct strange ceremonies and ward off evil spirits. Legend has it that Loz recites incantations and makes offerings to the gods to resurrect strange but wonderful carriages borne of foreign lands.

PH

 

[Scaf]

Yes it takes around 3 hrs to 3D print the components to make a visor, much needed by NHS.

Which is clever tech, but not the way to produce something like visors which are needed in high volume

 

[Silvercat]

surprised there has been no talk of UK manufacturing stepping in to make the PPE that is required and normally comes from China

They are...I know of a number of large high tech companies in the Aerospace & Defence industry who have been asked to turn their hands to making PPE and visors rather than aircraft parts. So a lot going on in the background which never gets reported on.

 

[Scaf]

They are...I know of a number of large high tech companies in the Aerospace & Defence industry who have been asked to turn their hands to making PPE and visors rather than aircraft parts. So a lot going on in the background which never gets reported on.

Good to hear - we need to be cheering all these firms from the roof tops and not just the F1 guys (who are doing an amazing job).

 

[Wack61]

Heard on the news tonight there's an up surge in motor vehicle use, ie people moving around unnecessarily
You know what's coming next!

Dave

I had a job delivering truck parts to birmingham today , the M6 was like a sunday morning , mostly trucks , it felt really odd , barely any cars , I did see a camper van going north and a transit driver had managed to stuff it in the barriers which must've taken a special effort on an empty 4 lane road

 

[iainw]

Which is clever tech, but not the way to produce something like visors which are needed in high volume

The one I showed was made in 14 minutes. They are churning them out using a ultimaker- even schools have them.

 

[iainw]

They are...I know of a number of large high tech companies in the Aerospace & Defence industry who have been asked to turn their hands to making PPE and visors rather than aircraft parts. So a lot going on in the background which never gets reported on.

It’s great news but I am gobsmacked it’s come this late when we have known about this since December.

 

[Silvercat]

It’s great news but I am gobsmacked it’s come this late when we have known about this since December.

Agreed...its astounding. May be the NHS Supply Chain team thought that they could satisfy all the demand from ......wait for it.......China! Someone has got it very wrong which is why they are going to UK industry to step in. When this is all over there needs to be some serious investigation into why UKG was so woefully ill prepared.

 

[doodlebug]

Surely a ventilator is a relatively simple device, not rocket science or brain surgery. Where's the hard bit? We are a Western advanced country, surely it's not that hard for the boffins?

It's not the design that is difficult, it's the approvals. But as you think it is so easy, maybe submit your design and I'll send it in to get approval?


40 years as an electronics engineer designing medical equipment that normally takes five years to get into production and everyone knows how to do it better than us when we are busting a gut to get stuff ready in 5 weeks. Sorry, I'm not having ago at you specifically, but I have never been so tired in my entire career.

 

[Wattie]

China is no longer fixed.

Chinese county says in lockdown after coronavirus cases

HEALTH-CORONAVIRUS/CHINA-COUNTY (URGENT):Chinese county says in lockdown after coronavirus cases

news.trust.org

Perhaps if China had been truthful about the extent of this situation the rest of the world would have reacted better.

When this is all said and done I think China needs to learn in no uncertain terms that it’s actions were unacceptable.

 

[Wack61]

Winner in the home made PPE contest is

 

[Wattie]

Well I just watched Johnson on Sky news... floundering around springs to mind.
All just words.

 

[rockits]

Appropriate name Johsnon

 

[Trev Latter]

That’s actually not such a bad idea. They’re absorbent, hold moisture to keep you dry and let you play tennis according to the adverts....

Winner in the home made PPE contest is

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[Rwc13]

It’s great news but I am gobsmacked it’s come this late when we have known about this since December.

Known about what since December? Didn’t the first cases only emerge in China right at the end of December? So the UK Government should have immediately in December done what? Ordered a whole load of additional PPE and respirators because a new virus had been identified in a small number of human cases? And before anything was known about how contagious or deadly it might be? Potentially wasting millions for which it would have been thoroughly criticised if it had turned out to be not very contagious/deadly. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.....

 

[CatmanV2]

That’s actually not such a bad idea. They’re absorbent, hold moisture to keep you dry and let you play tennis according to the adverts....

I might give it a chance. I never was any good at tennis

C

 

[CatmanV2]

Known about what since December? Didn’t the first cases only emerge in China right at the end of December? So the UK Government should have immediately in December done what? Ordered a whole load of additional PPE and respirators because a new virus had been identified in a small number of human cases? And before anything was known about how contagious or deadly it might be? Potentially wasting millions for which it would have been thoroughly criticised if it had turned out to be not very contagious/deadly. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.....

You forget. China's lying about the figures.... <insert irony tag here>

C

 

[Phil the Brit]

Apologies Phil if im treating it with a little light heartedness , all very tongue in cheek to stop me climbing up the walls and maybe bring a smile to some faces in these sad times , wee all really feeling the same frustration inside mate

Not a problem with light heartedness, no apology needed. Need some cheering up.

 

[D Walker]

Known about what since December? Didn’t the first cases only emerge in China right at the end of December? So the UK Government should have immediately in December done what? Ordered a whole load of additional PPE and respirators because a new virus had been identified in a small number of human cases? And before anything was known about how contagious or deadly it might be? Potentially wasting millions for which it would have been thoroughly criticised if it had turned out to be not very contagious/deadly. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.....

You have put into words something that has been on my mind, who is actually responsible for procuring and distributing PPE within the NHS. BTW I'm not anti or pro government.
Also who is responsible for not having enough testing kits, who is to responsible for there not being enough chemicals to make the kits, testing stations, labs to produce results.
None of these things happen overnight.
The WHO did not declare COVID 19 a Pandemic until 11 March --- that's 3 weeks ago.

Note I have asked - who is responsible - not who is to blame....

As RWC says - if the NHS chief of procurement had bought all the PPE stock they could and it not been required - they wouldn't have been criticised - they would have been sacked....

 

[Wattie]

Known about what since December? Didn’t the first cases only emerge in China right at the end of December? So the UK Government should have immediately in December done what? Ordered a whole load of additional PPE and respirators because a new virus had been identified in a small number of human cases? And before anything was known about how contagious or deadly it might be? Potentially wasting millions for which it would have been thoroughly criticised if it had turned out to be not very contagious/deadly. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.....

The Uk Government (along with just about every other) should have started investigating what was going on and prepared accordingly.
It was pretty easy to see that this was something beyond the norm.

As for “And before anything was known about how contagious or deadly it might be?”

We don’t know that now do we?