145!!

[CatmanV2]

Poor people still have to get to where they going haha im one!!

No you're not. You're a Maserati driving estate agent

C

 

[dem maser]

I like that!! When i own my own ill be doing viewings in a diesel ghibbli

 

[vantastic]

Agent, O dear and dont start me on DERV

 

[dem maser]

Anything against us? There are some good honest ones around still

 

[vantastic]

Anything against us? There are some good honest ones around still

No, but dont drive a farmers car

 

[dem maser]

Farmers car?

 

[vantastic]

Farmers car?

Derv

 

[dem maser]

My company car is not diesel....wish it was

 

[vantastic]

I like that!! When i own my own ill be doing viewings in a diesel ghibbli

you said derv

 

[Contigo]

I like cars and I don't mind diesel engines in the right car but putting diesel in a Ghibli or say a Panamera is just plain wrong. The appeal of executive cars and sports cars is the wafting great big petrol V8 or bigger!

 

[dem maser]

Always buy a big petrol engine when the car is older.....they cheaper.....

Looked at 645 a year ago and its so much cheaper than the 630d....when new it was 15k more!!

 

[vantastic]

I like cars and I don't mind diesel engines in the right car but putting diesel in a Ghibli or say a Panamera is just plain wrong. The appeal of executive cars and sports cars is the wafting great big petrol V8 or bigger!

 

[dem maser]

Agree....a maserati should not have a diesel engine but they have to....
Porsche now do hybrid....

 

[vantastic]

No, and Alfa should have never gone derv, its just wrong

 

[dem maser]

Alfa had to....they are not a prestige car maker, a car maker with a great history and following but needed to hit at the golf and polo sales.....

 

[zagatoes30]

Fuel oil is what keeps **** warm, and that's where all oil burners are ultimately destined

 

[BennyD]

I love my big diseasel. It's a totally different in its power delivery (and economy) but not far off as fast as my spyder and it can carry 4 adults and their bags in comfort. Fantastic.

 

[dem maser]

Diesel for a daily is alright....if i get the monthly budget i want to go out and buy a company car im looking at diesels.....

 

[Andyk]

No, and Alfa should have never gone derv, its just wrong

If they hadn't they would be dead and buried by now....

 

[Contigo]

I love my big diseasel. It's a totally different in its power delivery (and economy) but not far off as fast as my spyder and it can carry 4 adults and their bags in comfort. Fantastic.

I find that interesting because even though diesels are torquey they are not even in the same breath as some sportscars. Yes on the motorway they make kepp up until a ton but on the right twisties they will be left for dead.

A mate of mine thought hs 535d Touring was the benchmark for fast estate until I too him out in my M5 touring and then he really changed his mind. There was no comparison.

I do like the lazy driving on long jurneys but they are dull to drive with their limited torque curve.