Are you worried yet.

[GeoffCapes]

No, because he broke the law and didn't do the honorable thing.

If people did the honourable thing, most of the media would have resigned by now as they haven't been fit for purpose!

 

[MrMickS]

Should we really have to though .................surely thats more to the point ...................surely all news should be reported without a bias , wasnt that the mandate of the BBC

It’s impossible to report without apparent bias. Facts are always open to interpretation especially where opinion is involved.

The BBC try hard to provide balance where there isn’t any. The fact that both sides think that the BBC are biased against them seems to prove that they aren’t doing a bad job.

 

[GeoffCapes]

But, what if it really came down to alcohol and onions! And apparently there was no panic buying of onions.

I'm pretty sure I read a few years ago that having a certain level of alcohol in your bloodstream inhibits the spread of some diseases.
Something to do with not enough of a certain type of cell in your blood stream.

And for a bit of science in motion, the Singapore Sling was invented to prevent Malaria.
Although I think subsequently it's success was down to the mozzies not biting due to the huge amount of alcohol in the persons system and them not liking the taste.

Tried and tested every time I've been on holiday with the boys, never been bitten once!

 

[MrMickS]

If people did the honourable thing, most of the media would have resigned by now as they haven't been fit for purpose!

To be replaced by what? Your mate’s mate on TwitBook?

The media does the job they are asked to do. They all have an element of bias. It’s up to us to do critical thinking, educate ourselves, and work out what the actual reality is likely to be.

I’ve yet to find a single newspaper that is worth reading as a definitive source. The nearest is Private Eye

 

[Rwc13]

Really?

"Dominic Cummings’ family trip to Barnard Castle potentially broke lockdown rules and would have led to police telling him to turn around had he been stopped, Durham police have concluded.
A police examination of the facts surrounding Cummings’ time in the north-east, 260 miles (420km) from his London home, has said no further action will be taken, with the force saying they will not retrospectively issue fines."

At least the Scottish minister Doctor Calderwood and Neil Ferguson both resigned, for doing arguably breaking the same rule as Cummings.

The point of this somewhat pointless argument was that made above by Phil the Brit. Support for the lock-down was considerably diminished by Johnson's response to Cummings breaking the rules.

Great to see such overwhelmingly certain evidence that he broke the law! Even the media used the word “may” which in my dictionary doesn’t mean “did“. I note that they didn’t quote the police as saying they would have turned him back - so perhaps the Police didn’t actually say that and it was just the usual journalistic license to “improve” their story. In fact I’m sure I read another report that the police in Durham said explicitly he didn’t break the law. And in fact, the law is not clear on the point when a child’s health is involved in a decision to travel.

And where is the evidence that it is the Boris/Dominic effect that has considerably diminished the lockdown support. Another “media fact” created to criticise somebody they don’t like.

It’s a pointless argument because the original statement was pointless and without merit. But happy to keep asking you for the evidence, although a media report I’m afraid doesn’t qualify as such.

 

[Felonious Crud]

I’ve yet to find a single newspaper that is worth reading as a definitive source. The nearest is Private Eye

This.

 

[GeoffCapes]

To be replaced by what? Your mate’s mate on TwitBook?

The media does the job they are asked to do. They all have an element of bias. It’s up to us to do critical thinking, educate ourselves, and work out what the actual reality is likely to be.

I’ve yet to find a single newspaper that is worth reading as a definitive source. The nearest is Private Eye

I wasn't saying they needed to be replaced.

 

[lozcb]

It’s impossible to report without apparent bias. Facts are always open to interpretation especially where opinion is involved.

The BBC try hard to provide balance where there isn’t any. The fact that both sides think that the BBC are biased against them seems to prove that they aren’t doing a bad job.

From what I've seen over the last 5 years , and from someone that doesn't have an axe to grind with either party ,or over the Brexit scenario , just using layman's common sense the BBC has a huge bias towards the liberal left , and against Brexit , anyone that has failed to notice or acknowledge that really needs to go to Specsavers for both glasses and hearing aids , my son's an optometrist there I can get you a good deal to put you right

 

[daverichardson]

A longer view too, I remember Harold Wilson and James Callaghan being in power and they too were reviled by the BBC as was Gordon Brown more recently.
There may be good reasons for this. The point is the media target whoever is in Government at the time.
I am old enough to remember media before The Dirty Digger (thank you Private Eye), Rupert Murdoch and it was much more readable.
I don't bother with them at all now

 

[Saigon]

I'm pretty sure I read a few years ago that having a certain level of alcohol in your bloodstream inhibits the spread of some diseases.
Something to do with not enough of a certain type of cell in your blood stream.

And for a bit of science in motion, the Singapore Sling was invented to prevent Malaria.
Although I think subsequently it's success was down to the mozzies not biting due to the huge amount of alcohol in the persons system and them not liking the taste.

Tried and tested every time I've been on holiday with the boys, never been bitten once!

Had a few over the years in Raffles, initially in the early 80’s which back then was within staggering distance from Bugis street, long gone now. I remember reading that the Sling was invented in Raffles in 1915 as an acceptable punch for the Expat ladies to drink in public. And also probably did Have an adverse effect on mozzies, along with DDT. Also read it was still being copiously consumed in 1942 when the Japanese popped in for a visit. (What are those bounders doing here, same again ? ) What a cock up the loss of Singapore was, ending with the order from Churchill for our remaining forces to stand their ground to the last man standing. I’m sure you had a great holiday with the boys, but also bet you would have enjoyed it in the early 80’s.

 

[philw696]

 

[Phil H]

Bugis street,

That used to be on the tourist trail back in the seventies (allegedly) but woe betide anyone who tried photographing the 'girls' who worked there

PH

 

[rockits]

Sure, but they will, while not actually lie, tell the story they want to tell. Just like everyone one else.

C

Unless you're Grant Shapps (sorry Michael Green!) or Lier Trump (sorry Donald Trump!).

 

[Wattie]

 

[Phil the Brit]

Great to see such overwhelmingly certain evidence that he broke the law! Even the media used the word “may” which in my dictionary doesn’t mean “did“. I note that they didn’t quote the police as saying they would have turned him back - so perhaps the Police didn’t actually say that and it was just the usual journalistic license to “improve” their story. In fact I’m sure I read another report that the police in Durham said explicitly he didn’t break the law. And in fact, the law is not clear on the point when a child’s health is involved in a decision to travel.

And where is the evidence that it is the Boris/Dominic effect that has considerably diminished the lockdown support. Another “media fact” created to criticise somebody they don’t like.

It’s a pointless argument because the original statement was pointless and without merit. But happy to keep asking you for the evidence, although a media report I’m afraid doesn’t qualify as such.

So my comment was pointless and without merit huh? Is that right!
I am staunch Tory but cannot defend the indefensible. So much has been written about his day trip to Barnard Castle with his partner and child in the car to "test his eyes" that I won't go over old proven ground again. Sufficient to say WITHOUT DOUBT he broke the rules. As the lead advisor to Boris he should have gone.
The only valid argument you could possibly make was whether his breaking of the rules has led to people doing a "dominic cummings" or not.
My take on this is definately........... Doing a "dominic cummings" will be a saying for many years to come.
My comment to you therefore is that your comment is pointless and without merit as for sure I am right and you are wrong!

 

[Wattie]

So my comment was pointless and without merit huh? Is that right!
I am staunch Tory but cannot defend the indefensible. So much has been written about his day trip to Barnard Castle with his partner and child in the car to "test his eyes" that I won't go over old proven ground again. Sufficient to say WITHOUT DOUBT he broke the rules. As the lead advisor to Boris he should have gone.
The only valid argument you could possibly make was whether his breaking of the rules has led to people doing a "dominic cummings" or not.
My take on this is definately........... Doing a "dominic cummings" will be a saying for many years to come.
My comment to you therefore is that your comment is pointless and without merit as for sure I am right and you are wrong!

I haven’t butted heads with RWC for at least a fortnight so this is long overdue.
I’m in your camp PTB.
Firstly those who make the rules should lead by example.
Secondly,Anyone who feels they have an eyesight disorder should not be encouraged to drive 50 odd miles to determine the fact.
Instead, stay in, phone an optician (or get someone else to do it for you if u can’t c).

The trouble with much of the world today is that those governing it are full of sh1t and cannot be trusted . They seem to adhere to a different code of expectation to those they pile expectation on.

 

[doodlebug]

So my comment was pointless and without merit huh? Is that right!
I am staunch Tory but cannot defend the indefensible. So much has been written about his day trip to Barnard Castle with his partner and child in the car to "test his eyes" that I won't go over old proven ground again. Sufficient to say WITHOUT DOUBT he broke the rules. As the lead advisor to Boris he should have gone.
The only valid argument you could possibly make was whether his breaking of the rules has led to people doing a "dominic cummings" or not.
My take on this is definately........... Doing a "dominic cummings" will be a saying for many years to come.
My comment to you therefore is that your comment is pointless and without merit as for sure I am right and you are wrong!

Well said Phil. I gave up arguing with him because it's pointless.

 

[philw696]

Absolutely hitting the nail on the head Wattie.

 

[philw696]

 

[Silvercat]

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