Well done Si..

Palmball

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........and every petrolhead would agree with you that the M3 is over (and above) the C63!

And as the person who has owned both cars and covered 50k miles over a 3 year period, I can tell you that most petrolhead opinions on this are not based on anything more than what they'd like to believe, what is written by a few journalists who place the highest importance on track times and very rarely (if ever) on how the cars actually drive!

I believe there is one other person on this forum who also has owned both and will also likely remind you all that the Stuttgart taxi is actually a superior ROAD car!

Of course, you're all entitled to your own opinions but until you've spent years driving and living with both then you'll just have to trust that mine is the only one that matters ;)

Lol....I love the C63/M3 debate as it gets so many people riled up. Until you have driven them both properly (and I mean by the scruff of their neck) you seriously can't appreciate just how similar they are to each other - you can forget all previous brand preconceptions with these two as they're both so different to what went before. I'm just glad to have been able up enjoy them both (oh, the RS4 doesn't get a look in in my opinion...they rarely make their claimed output, they understeer too much for my liking and my standard 335i that I had before the M3 was able to keep up with the RS4 my boss had at the time!)


Of course, none of this matters if you have an allegiance to one brand over another or if you simply like or dislike the way one of them looks.
 
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Andyk

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Oh God...no more AMG - M3 debate please..........................The M3 is better though....
 

Andyk

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Naaaaa...your right Dem..Me and you have done this to death but we both know which si tthe better performance car........
 

GransportFan1

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To be honest, i love this AMG debate, it always gets out of hand then Andy (palmball) comes in to clear things up. classic banter.
 

Andyk

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Well as I see it there is nothing to clear up anyway as its clear M cars are better better driver cars than AMG cars...See sorted now.....
 

GransportFan1

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Look Dem, i saw 4 M3's today, they were all as dull as dishwater, all were silver and one of them had the 18 inch wheels, looked bloody terrible.
 

Andyk

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Adam as I understand it you actually are fond of the new M3 even though you will not admit it...Come come out of the AMG closet...
 

GransportFan1

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o.k that was the Dakar Yellow one which did look quite impressive with the gloss black wheels, but it was 60k, 60k for an M3 is ridiculous.
 

GransportFan1

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I could not walk into a Beemer showroom and buy the M3 over the C63, it is not exciting enough in terms of looks and the noise, well i am sorry but the C63 wins that test easily plus it's in gear acceleration times are noticeably faster than the M3.
 

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In gear acceleration times??
Ones a 4.0 the other 6.2.....one is 50k the other 60k new....

Reading that you would think the better one is the merc wouldnt you......
 

GransportFan1

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The M3 is a greater engineering achievement as they have managed to get roughly the same power of the Merc from a 4.0 but dont forget, the 6.2 in the Merc is not the full 6.2 you get in the SL AMG.